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Post by nothin on Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:19 am

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Half a day's worth of programming, planning and design have created something that is at least looking like the old sim brothel. At this rate I should have something testable in a week (if my professors don't pile me higher and deeper in work to do).

More important than the fancy looking game; I've created a tool that will code all of the info for any girls that need to be added to the game if I give it the stats for them. What that means to you: when the game is done initial testing I should be able to adds girls to the game as quickly as you can request them (as long as there are images available).

Project details so far: The game is being programmed in flash, it will be runnable through any web browser and will not require any install. The game can be hosted on a website (if I can get my piece of junk windows ME machine running and working as a server I'll host it myself) or can be ran locally and downloaded through uTorrent.

I WILL need help with getting images for all of the girls eventually, but I will be posting more details on that later, so keep checking the forum for details.

When the first test-version comes out there will probably only be 1 image per girl, and likely no jokers yet. Don't expect too much from it.

Because this game is using none of the code from the old game, the new game is going to be quite different from the old game. Different formulas will be used for calculating the number of customers, how much money customers are willing to pay etc.. for the first version of the game many of these things may not be coded yet at all (ie. unlimited customers maybe, we'll see how far I can get).

That being said, this is your chance to give any feedback you want into the game, tell me what features you like and don't like! If you get the time, log onto your account (or create an account) and answer these questions on the forum board or a PM.

In sim brothel 1 (the old flash version that you can torrent or find on newgrounds) each day you had to go through each page and all see of your girl's results for the day (whether you wanted to or not) when you ended the current day. In the newer version (downloadable/install version) you would only see the picture for your building's manager, which do you prefer?

Are you a big fan of weekly jokers? Do you find them fun to use/get money from or are they just another thing you check up on every week in the game?

In V1 you had to manually set girl prices or use the handy 'estimate' button, in V2 girl prices (how much they charge customers) automatically adjusted as stats went up. Obviously V2's is easier because it takes care of pricing for you, would you prefer that or having to manually change it and having an 'estimate' button?

V1 you 'bought' ranks up when your stats were high enough for it, V2 you had the option to 'try for a rank up', which would decrease some of your stats for that day but give you a chance to rank up, which do you like better?

How did you feel about the styles that were added in V2?

Would a 'take a walk' sidegame/sidequest/feature be a feature you would look forward to (random good/bad events, possibility of finding new girls, side storylines etc).

Did building health in V2 add to the game or did it just piss you off having to repair your buildings all the time?

Did girl health in V1 add to the game if did it just tick you off having to bench your girls to let them recover all the time?

What features would you add to the game? Which features would you remove?


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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by Terashi on Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:42 am

good job man,
i think you are very near to the original work....continuos in this way.
for the answer:
-in the second version you can see everygirl that work you must only push the button "next room" in any case it's good the idea to return at the old way if it is more easy for you.
-jocker are always usefull but we need restore the thing that thi girl got sick or they will be unecessary...and it will be not funny more
-having manually! i'm the boss ,i decide the price afro
-rank up with pay
-what do you means with "Themes that were added in V2"?
-for me it is useless the side storyline,if you want make the take aq walk it could be made for a jocker/good/finding a girl
-it cuold be a good idea have to repair but you are the programmer so choose you the best XD XD
-the health is necessary...have you ever heard of a person that never get sick?
probably i would remove the stuffs because they are useless,important are the "school" of the v1
i would add also many mangas girl...if you need i will find the pics... but not all girls are good...it must be a game not pornografical catalog so we must remain on the mangas style,what you think about my idea?

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by nothin on Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:59 am

You're thinking along the same lines as I am. I like the idea of having many many girls to choose from though - the point of the game isn't to collect them all so I like the idea of having many to choose from so people can choose their favorites.

The v2 version I was just trying out had the 'next room' button skip the other girls in the room and went to the next building... but it was a very buggy version so they probably changed it.

'Themes added in v2' are the themes for having should be 'styles added in v2', I'll fix that :p

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by Terashi on Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:13 am

ok ....
remember i start always with the idea to collect the girl but after the first week i say "WTF i want more many the girl will made me rich!!!"
good idea the list!

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Post by Rainboom on Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:50 am

Love the idea and how you are reviving the project. Something I would like to see is the ability to go onto the streets and recruit/kidnap girls. Another thing that would be great to see is to have the option to pimp your girls out on the street, doing this could add an array of random events and situations that would make an intresting game.

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Post by joman394 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:35 am

1. I like seeing all the girls that I have, just seeing one isn't really fun
2.The weekly jokers are helpful at times so I like them but that's me
3.I like the way it is in V2, V1 was sorta annoying going in and changing it every time
4.I don't really care on the rank ups, as long as I get them LOL
5.The styles are really good, I like how they affect the game for the better good.
6.I don't really like the building health, it just took money, but like Terashi said You're the programmer you decide
7.Girls' health doesn't matter to me, and again like Terashi said, have you ever heard of someone not getting sick?
8. Something I would add, would be an Unlimited days mode, like you had a choice between like 100 days, 200 days, 300 days, and unlimited. It just never ends, That is something I wanted since the first game

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by nothin on Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:04 am

Unlimited days mode can definitely be done (honestly, having a limit to the number of days never made sense to me).

I'm going to start out with the game being almost featureless, then I'll add in features as we go along.

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by Terashi on Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:43 am

Rainboom wrote:Love the idea and how you are reviving the project. Something I would like to see is the ability to go onto the streets and recruit/kidnap girls. Another thing that would be great to see is to have the option to pimp your girls out on the street, doing this could add an array of random events and situations that would make an intresting game.
there is stil a BIG project of this type (kidnapping and similar) it is made from the pink petal...but I personaly don't like too much this...it is a work so the only way to obtain the girl is boughht them or if they want start to work...
another thing:you must manage a brothel you work in a house not street
someone think like me?

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by Fred U. Derf on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:18 am

Have you had a chance to look at the haXe (flash) version of SimBrothel v2?

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by nothin on Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:20 am

Yeah I've seen the HaXe version, I thought it had too many buttons... didn't seem to flow quite right compared to the V2 on this site. I also don't know any HaXe programming so I won't be able to make anything that looks like that game.

just downloaded and tried out that pink petal game and confused the hell out of me. seems like a similar game, had quite a few bugs (like all games do).

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by Terashi on Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:53 am

nothin wrote:Yeah I've seen the HaXe version, I thought it had too many buttons... didn't seem to flow quite right compared to the V2 on this site. I also don't know any HaXe programming so I won't be able to make anything that looks like that game.

just downloaded and tried out that pink petal game and confused the hell out of me. seems like a similar game, had quite a few bugs (like all games do).

the pink petal as also the problem that there are the standard girl...so boring and always the same and there are too many caratteristic...
for the bug ahahahahahahhahahahaah they are everywhere!

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by dewybmt on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:32 am

here's my two cents on the matter. hopefully it matters.
1. i liked in the first game i could see each girls results, how many customers she met, how much money she made, and other events, right below a sexy picture. yet i didn't like how you HAD to go through every picture. it wasted time sometimes. and not being able to go BACK to a girls results and picture. in v2, i could select specific girls pictures, and exit if i didn't care, but i didn't like having to search through EVERY girls results. make it a mix, choose which girls picture to look at and see her results specifically, yet let us skip them or be specific with the girls.
2. i really liked the jokers in the first game, they usually had helpful and variable effects, i didn't care for the health only jokers in v2. keep the v1 jokers.
3. keep the automatic effect, yet still give it the interface of v1. i really liked that interface and style of the borders. that dark yellowish color.
4. i like ranks, but i wasn't fond of either rank up thing. like in v1 you could oly rank up 1 girl a day which was annoying and tedious. how about making it like v1 where you pay, but you can rank up multiple girls a day. cause in v2 it was boring and felt really mindless just keep continuing days. so try v1 with less limited rank ups.
5.i didn't like em much. they were cool with the effects they give, though some were broken or really really cheap, it was very tedious. especially in the special challenge jokers. (the ones that gave you girls or special effects, which i personally loved using them to get girls, something about just getting a slave basically like that felt so great. maybe make jokers to give you multiple girls or something, or keep it as it is to be safe. add some better effects to the jokers maybe.) where i couldn't get the right style and miss a challenge.
6. definately do the take a walk function. definately do that. i like the idea of knocking a girl out and enslaving her (i'm a terrible person) or something or buying/recruiting girls or getting some cool effects and stories. (nothing TOO big though, only minor side stories to get girls or money or stuff like that.)
7. building health pissed me the hell off. spending half my money to repair a good building or have it break was horrid. reaslistic i suppose, but please don't do it again if you don't care for it.
8. girl health was okay, i didn't like them taking breaks half way through a challenge and taking forever to get better. you can definately add that to the game, just make them more healthy, like let the girls take longer to tire out completely or give girls health upgrades sometimes. add more ways to restore health too, other than sending them off. but yea feel free to keep that in.
9. more time, more girls, more special events, preferably good for you, (i kind of want this to become more of a fun game for pleasure and enjoyment rather than challenge, still with some challenge but still fairly easy.) and what else, uhhh... more ways to GET girls, i like the take a walk thing since it could let you capture, enslave, recruit or otherwise collect girls. also, i dare say, a fetish feature. like add different kinds of fetishes in for people somehow. (i, though it sounds sick, prefer fetishes like ryona, sometimes bloody, if you've heard of it, it's kind of a guilty pleasure, but at the same time i like it all around so i don't really feel bad about liking it, yes i trust this place enough to just say that, so things like that, like make some abuse scenes in the take a walk function or something, though these features can be completely optional, i doubt giantess can get involved. though that would be awesome if you could add that into the gameplay somehow.) wow i'm so sorry, i'm asking for so much in this comment. you can ignore this last answer you want. maybe i'm just kind of messed up. i just wanted to give my advice. i'm sorry if i creeped anyone out. this is long i know so i'll end it here. thanks once again and at least consider my actual answers. well, here goes nothing, send!

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by nothin on Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:15 am

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I appreciate your input Smile

The way I have it set up right now is that you can go back and forwards between girls at the end-of-day screen (where are the girls stats are updated you find out how much money you get etc). Ignore the bottom textbox, that contains info for me for debugging. I think I'm going to turn the sidemenu on the right into a scrolling menu so you can choose a girl to get the info on, that way you can click through all of them, exit immediately or choose a girl so everyone is happy Smile

I've been spending too much time getting images for all the characters in the game and not enough time programming. But finding and editing the images is just so addicting Smile I'll work on it a big more this weekend, that way I can get a beta version out asap Smile

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by Terashi on Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:29 pm

U R near to be a god!

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by dewybmt on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:08 pm

perfect. that's exactly how i was hoping it would be. Smile also uh, yea feel free to ignore the last bit of my last comment once again. finding sexy pictures is addicting. why would people do it if it wasn't? also, thank you for working so hard on this project.

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Post by nothin on Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:30 pm

Its no problem Smile I enjoy programming and this makes for great practice.

What girls would you guys like to see available? I might as well get characters you guys like if you are going to be beta-testing.

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by dewybmt on Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:30 am

that's a tough one considering all the girls already there, and all the girls you might've already added. (truth be told i'm having trouble thinking of girls i'd like to see.) personally, it'd be cool if you could add touhou girls, (a popular top down bullet hell game). other than that it might just be better to search around online. i'd almost say maybe a make your own girl function sometime, or look around popular picture sites for pictures and ideas. i'd try danbooru, lot's of pictures, mostly sexual pictures that would fit this game perfectly, especially touhou related ones. that is to say, if you haven't seen that site already. maybe the other viewers of this site have ideas or preferences. (by the way, did you actually consider that fetish thing i talked about? i wouldn't blame you if not.

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by Terashi on Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:33 am

why don't make a post with name,anime/manga/game?a new (not which is still there)

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by dewybmt on Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:58 am

could work. it'd be a lot better than scrambling posts here. make a simbro v3 girl suggestion thread. it'd probably be easier on nothin.

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by hawk on Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:35 am

Hi kind of new here.

Been lurking for well over a year or 2 now and just wanted to say that I could try help find some pictures if you need them however is there a list somewhere that has the girls that you need on there and also how many different pics would you need.

At a guess I would say one base profile pic for the girl thats in the slave market and then about at least another 3 for each when the girl is "visited".

However don't expect me to be a dedicated member or anything since I'm likely to drop of fairly quickly since I'm just starting a law degree at uni and also for a fear of this project dying off again (for the third time now I think) which would be a shame because believe it or not it was this game that got me into anime after I wanted to find out who Skuld, Belldandy and Urd were.

Also one last thing is that don't expect me find loli pics because I don't really endorse that sort of stuff although I don't care if people do find it good and also I'm running off a college network which is private and so if they found that sort of stuff in my internet history I wouldn't be surprised if they killed my network there and then under legal circumstances which is understandable (I live in the UK btw).

Oh one more final note I have had some basic programming experience on pascal (I know this is not what its running off) so if I do start becoming more involved in this project (which as I said before I doubt) I might try to "totally and completely legally" acquire a copy of C++ (thats what you are using right) off TPB or something like that.

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Post by Terashi on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:34 am

hawk wrote:Hi kind of new here.

Been lurking for well over a year or 2 now and just wanted to say that I could try help find some pictures if you need them however is there a list somewhere that has the girls that you need on there and also how many different pics would you need.

At a guess I would say one base profile pic for the girl thats in the slave market and then about at least another 3 for each when the girl is "visited".

However don't expect me to be a dedicated member or anything since I'm likely to drop of fairly quickly since I'm just starting a law degree at uni and also for a fear of this project dying off again (for the third time now I think) which would be a shame because believe it or not it was this game that got me into anime after I wanted to find out who Skuld, Belldandy and Urd were.

Also one last thing is that don't expect me find loli pics because I don't really endorse that sort of stuff although I don't care if people do find it good and also I'm running off a college network which is private and so if they found that sort of stuff in my internet history I wouldn't be surprised if they killed my network there and then under legal circumstances which is understandable (I live in the UK btw).

Oh one more final note I have had some basic programming experience on pascal (I know this is not what its running off) so if I do start becoming more involved in this project (which as I said before I doubt) I might try to "totally and completely legally" acquire a copy of C++ (thats what you are using right) off TPB or something like that.

I think that we must continue on the wave of the precedent chapter...if you can't work cause you are in a college there isn't any problem...someone else will make the dirty work (isn't it nothin? XD) then you will be a usefull tester an fixer!
then,for the dying off..nothin is making big work yet and until he is our engine we continue to move and I'm cecking this forum from a year,i won't let the project fall down!

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Post by Dou on Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:25 pm

Ah, I think that for this game side-stories would be best saved for after the features are done..but I wouldn't mind. Random events are good add surprises to a game, too much determination can be boring.

Maybe a girl 'falls' for you and you trick her into being a brothel girl to 'get close to you' etc evil Oo, etc

-I think there should be both auto estimate and set your own prices. Maybe an option (or check box) for auto-estimate all girls; and an ability to set your own prices (maybe when box unchecked etc in option menu) handy estimate box was usefull

- For aftersex info: Both, being able to go quickly between houses would be good, as well as looking at each girls pic separately. Maybe just an end button? And having all the houses and girls up like a menu to look through. Back and forth buttons to look at w/e house then girl you want. It was slide show style ver1 right? Maybe an option to pick which way to show the pics/info. oO

-I do enjoy the jokers, The girls obtained there usually were 'higher quality' girls right? Or rich/royal/etc girls that wouldn't be a slave necessarily. Having goals makes it funner, but requirements or fail would be a burden to some

-It makes sense that girls having smex all day would get sick eventually; but I did like having inf health in ver2. Maybe a "casual mode" with inf health? (for all difficultly/days. maybe not hard, if there is one)

-Repairing all the time doesn't make much sense unless it's a small shack. You'd think the better houses would have people taking care of them.. Maybe pay for an upgrade that -auto repairs- etc? akin to the ads that take away money each turn -but small amounts-

-I liked being able to earn 'rank up' because that meant multiple rank ups in one day. I like multiple 'level ups'~ Unless it's one of those games that doesn't give 'stats' etc properly from multiple level ups some rpgs have bugs like that xO

Maybe pay a 'fee/tribute' to allow a rank up, but they have to work for it after words? Or perhaps you pay to allow 'up to this rank' for all your girls per house? Or an option to choose between which style pay/earn.

~just a jumble of ideas from meh headcavern

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by masterblaster on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:06 pm

Quick opinion:
I think jokers are a great idea since it gives the game a whole new level of depth since it gives a surprise element to the game. Jokers are interesting and makes the player rethink his decision wisely.
And as others have said I think that the player should manage cost/prices for the girls.
I don't really know what i think of both the rankup-systems since both of them could work. The only thing I reacted to was that when you 'try to rank up' you lose some of your stats would kind of make the game more difficult and annoy the player if the ranking up didn't succeed. If so I think you should be able to play for maybe unlimited time so you can improvise more with you're characters.
Take a walk sounds fine to me, don't put so much thought into it though, it might not be to everyones liking. Building health was a way to big part of v1, if it makes it into v2 I think it atleast should be decreased.
Girl health was fine (they are working at a brothel so yeah).
Also the new texture style looks great! Can't wait to test it out!
I can't really think of new features right now, although I have thought about the skillsets every kind of girl has, they were kind of unbalanced since some girls seemed pretty useless to me (economically, not in other ways hehe). Keep it up! Glad to help

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by SirKaid on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:08 pm

1. I like seeing all the girls, but at the same time I don't like mandatory busywork. Having the manager show up, or even having the building image (for those times when you aren't interested in wanking and just want to play a tycoon game), and then having an option to scroll through the other girls, go to the next brothel, or just go to the next day seems like the best option.

2. Weekly jokers are fun, through I'd prefer if the joker abilities were more interesting. It'd be good if the abilities were things like "for one week, charisma is up 10%" so that I'd actually have to think about whether to turn it into money or not later on.

3. I'm not a huge fan of micromanagement, so the estimate button is my friend. Including a slider for people who like micro along with an estimate button for the lazy ones like me would be best.

4. I liked the V1 version, except that you could only rank up a single girl per day. In the late game this always left me with fifteen girls waiting for a rank up while I'm swimming in cash and have nothing to spend it on. If you could rank up anyone who had the experience, that would be great.

5. Styles were interesting, just make sure that you have enough girls with each style to actually get to the max rank. Also I'd like it if each girl had one of their styles be the show that they're from, so "Naruto" for Sakura Haruno or "Ah! My Goddess" for Skuld.

It could also be interesting to have "secret" styles that get unlocked through hidden means, like "Cherry Blossoms Everywhere" for having multiple Sakuras. (Naruto, Cardcaptor Sakura, Street Fighter, the list goes on. It's a very popular name)

6. None of the "take a walk" stuff has really piqued my interest, but that could just be because I've only seen it included as a beta "proof of concept" thing. I'd say that if you want to add it, great, but make sure the core gameplay works first.

7. The building repair was nothing more than busywork. I wouldn't say it pissed me off, but only because there were never all that many buildings to repair so it was infrequent busywork. I'd like it if building maintenance was just a flat fee taken away every turn, perhaps with upgrades you could buy to reduce it.

8. Health in and of itself was a good idea, the implementation was a pain in the ass. If I could set each girl to rest when they get to a certain percentage health and then automatically return to work when their health is full, that would be great. Having to manually go through your girls and set them to rest or back to work ends up being a lot of busywork, and I have better things to do with my time than spend five minutes to take a turn.

9. I'd like two things added. First, I'd like a "good guy" mode, where the lolis were removed, as well as an option to choose to free the slaves; you'd pay them more, but they would be happier and healthier. Second, I'd like something to spend my money on once I've bought all the houses and all the girls. Political campaign, buying soldiers to defend the country or throw a coup, investing in the stock market, buying upgrades for your girls or houses, whatever. This could tie into end game scenarios if you like, but mainly I just want there to be something at the end so that I don't buy everything by day 90 and then wonder what to do.

I'd remove the arbitrary day limit, instead having an unlimited mode and a "choose your limit" mode. Maybe add a score mechanic and have multipliers based on how few days you pick?

As for girls, you can't go wrong with adding the ladies from Sailor Moon and Street Fighter. Pictures are super easy to find via gelbooru.

Thanks for trying your hand at this, and I'll be happy to beta for you! Very Happy

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Re: Sim Brothel Remake

Post by Terashi on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:32 pm

good now give time to nothin

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